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  I found this by accident...

  by HOTB in

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  i found this on youtube yesterday.

  i found it a slightly over exaggerated depiction of the characters from the kh - but i recognised them!

  i guess every congregation has some just the same.. https://youtu.be/xaen6fpvcim.

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  Sea Breeze

  Watched the first 30 mins so far......Best comeback to JW's I've ever seen in 20 years of research.
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  50 years ago today

  by frozen2018 in

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  buzz aldrin and neal armstrong landed on the moon and fulfilled jfk's ambitious goal.

  i've watched some of the programming about the event.

  i think the best was on pbs's "the american experience.

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  Sea Breeze

  I took the family to NASA today near Houston. Was packed as all get out. Got to see the new Orion Mission Control room that will guide missions to the moon starting in a couple years as well as missions to mars withing 20 years. The latest modules were in the the training facility and looked more modern.

  
  
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  To Active JW's Who Think Outside the Box: 2 Thessalonians 2:11, 12 Reconsidered...

  by MADMARY in

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  watchtower society “contradicts” the bible – where and why?.

  god's word certainly warns anyone who would dare, or be so audacious to deliberately change, twist or distort his holy message of truth by saying:.

  “5 every saying of god is refined.

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  Sea Breeze

  Good Points. King James Version is more to the point.

  
  

  And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
  12 That they all might be damned - KJV

  
  The possibility of repentance or believing the truth must be first taken away so that they can be damned. Otherwise, repentance would elicit a pardon under the terms of the new testament contract. There is a point when a person no longer has the possibility of repentance. Repentance is a gift. After repeated rejection, the gift is removed as an offer.
  
  Watchtower leaders fall into this catagory ; they are completely deluded regarding the grace and judgment of God.
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  Craziest books or magazines printed by the tower.

  by rockemsockem in

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  what are the craziest books or magazines the tower ever printed?

  i know of the millions now living is crazy the finished mystery.

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  Sea Breeze

  "Revelation. It's Grand Climax Is At Hand"

  Even the name of this book elicits images of indecency. Must have been named by one of the pedophiles at bethel. It was a royal mind numbing rape of a distorted commentary.

  They made us study that garbage 3 times! Anyone remember that?
  
  
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  Get you surplus Disaster Relief Supplies Here WTF?!?

  by HiddenPimo in

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  make money on stuff already purchased with donations and insurance refunds....

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  Sea Breeze

  You have received without paying, so give without being paid. - Matt. 10: 8 GNT

  God's wife-like organization is out drinking & whoring around again. Apparently, she's never satisfied. Bottoms up Tony.

  
  

  
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  Have you ever gotten a straight answer? If yes, what was it?

  by Tenacious in

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  the light continues to get brighter, yada, yada, yada.. but, the bottom line is the watchtower claims everything comes from jehovah.

  books, magazines, videos, assemblies, to jw broadcast, to gb appointments, to dramas, even the music and sophia and caleb.

  heck, they would claim jehovah provides the toilet paper if they could.

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  Sea Breeze

  They like to claim the authority of their writings as from God, without the responsibility that goes along with such a claim .... such as accuracy.
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  Jesus brothers and systers

  by asp59 in

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  mattew 12; 50 for whoever does the will of my father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”.

  to all jws.

  who are jesus brothers and syster?.

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  Sea Breeze

  Thanks for the re-cap Blondie. Spot on.
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  Jesus brothers and systers

  by asp59 in

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  mattew 12; 50 for whoever does the will of my father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”.

  to all jws.

  who are jesus brothers and syster?.

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  Sea Breeze

  According to the WTS .... After the end of the 1,000 year reign of Jesus over the earth... those who stay loyal; only then are those humans granted the designation of Jesus's brothers, God's children.

  This of course is pure nonsense. Sonship is experienced immediately upon acceptance of Christ as a substitution for your sin debt:

  All these scriptures describe this condition in the present or past tense:

  Romans 8:16

  The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God,

  Galatians 4:6

  Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, "Abba! Father!"

  Romans 8:14

  For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.

  Galatians 3:26

  For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.

  John 1:12

  But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,

  Hosea 1:10
  

  Yet the number of the sons of Israel Will be like the sand of the sea, Which cannot be measured or numbered; And in the place Where it is said to them, "You are not My people," It will be said to them, "You are the sons of the living God."

  1 John 3:2

  Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is.

  Luke 20:36

  for they cannot even die anymore, because they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.

  Hebrews 2:10
  

  For it was fitting for Him, for whom are all things, and through whom are all things, in bringing many sons to glory, to perfect the author of their salvation through sufferings.

  John 11:52

  and not for the nation only, but in order that He might also gather together into one the children of God who are scattered abroad.

  Galatians 4:7

  Therefore you are no longer a slave, but a son; and if a son, then an heir through God.
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  Jesus brothers and systers

  by asp59 in

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  mattew 12; 50 for whoever does the will of my father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”.

  to all jws.

  who are jesus brothers and syster?.

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  Sea Breeze

  But who does a regular JW sees as a brother or sister to Jesus?

  They see whoever the Watchtower tells them to see.
  
  Ironically, Christs brothers really do include the 144,000 because they are from the literal tribes of Israel. Jesus was, and is an Israeli. They are all brothers.

  These are Christs brothers who will be evangelizing the world during the Great Tribulation. Church Age believers (Christians) will be long gone by then in the Rapture.
  
  During this time God prepares the nation of Israel and the world for the 2nd coming of Christ who will defeat the Anti-Christ and save the world from all of his various wars that he has started.
  
  Once seated on his throne in Jerusalem, (after Armageddon) the nations (people that are left) will be gathered before him and the sheep and goats judgment will then take place. Those that were friendly toward the Israelis during the GT will be allowed to enter.
  
  Those that were aligned with the Anti-Christ and blamed the Israelis for everything will not be allowed the enter the Millennium.
  
  A cursed and disfellowshipped Jewish King who walked out of a tomb 2000 years ago will then rule the world with fairness and peace for a thousand years.
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  How Many Different Bibles / Translations ,Interpretations Of Scripture ,Has The WTB&TS Printed Over The Years .?

  by smiddy3 in

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  2. bible

  they have printed individual books of the old testament early on , and then the new testament .

  { individual books ?

  then the complete bible a few times , as well as the kingdom interlinear , a word for word translation of the greek into english.. as well as printing byington`s bible ,and the king james bible .. were their any others that i have missed ?.

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  Sea Breeze

  the big question is are there any scriptures in any of these that contradict Watchtower Theology ?

  All of the Scriptures contradict Watchtower Theology!
  
  The Watchtower characterizes the whole bible as primarily a book of government, which contrasts man's various governments vs. God's government (kingdom)

  But the bible is actually a book that shows how a person can get right with God (avoid the penalty of sin), primarily through the use of two contracts (Testaments) .... The Old and the New Testaments. The word Testament means contract or Covenant.

  The Watchtower shakes their fist at God and basically says in essence, " I don't need your grace (covenant); my works ought to be enough for you".... like Cain.
  
  Also like Cain, that sacrifice is rejected, while only the blood sacrifice of Able is acceptable. This helps to explain the vitriolic hatred that Jehovah's Witnesses have for Christians that accept the blood covenant that Jesus offered to "whosoever", while they reject it each Memorial.

  JW's are very proud of their works, and so they get what they ask for .... a judgment based upon their works.
  
  In Christianity, adherents see the futility of earning sonship with God and accept the work of God on the Cross as a "Substitution" for their personal sin penalty, which clears the way for a legal adoption into God's family if sought.